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this thing called a podcast I just can't handle it, this thing.
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Okay, welcome everyone to another unhinged episode of legends, loot and a crazy little thing called a podcast.
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We are going to spend some time digging through the news archives and seeing what news is out there lately in the world of Dungeons and Dragons, where we've got all sorts of lovely, fantastic things to talk about.
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Joining us today is Catherineatherine hello, I still live here.
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Yes, you, you do, especially after that song.
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How could we let you go right?
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well, you'll be missing me for the next.
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Uh, yeah, I know let's see tonight, but three nights after that, I know I know Fabo's traumatized.
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Oh, I'm sorry.
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This thing called a job expects me to show up for the sales conference Exactly.
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I think I might be more traumatized from the car earlier.
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I'm going to be honest, hi Sophia.
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Hi Sophia, I love you.
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I'm very sorry, I'm mean, she's not going to listen to this.
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Oh well, that's too bad.
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That's her loss, that's right.
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And also joining us, as you've heard, is Fable.
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Hello, hi, fable, how are you?
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I'm good.
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How are you?
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All excited for the prom.
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Yes.
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Yeah, basically everything for it today Awesome.
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That's so exciting.
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I'm very excited for you.
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Thank you, all right.
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So we've got, like I said, we've got all sorts of news articles.
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So let's just so we kind of recapped last time what happened in Phandelver, you've gotten, you attacked some, well, some of the red brains really Well, who attacked who?
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Who?
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Who shot first?
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I think that was I think that was iquium, it was definitely iquium.
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Iquium shot first so yeah, iquium and han yep, so.
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So that was a little bit of a problem, but you, you're able to handle that and you're going to head off to phandelver, which which is very or not Phandelver.
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You're in Phandelver, phandelon, phandelver, and below is the adventure.
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I'm getting all my words mixed up, words Trescender Manor, the soon-to-be Bemble Bomble B&B, very exciting.
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So what are your feelings going into the Tresendor Manor, or, let's say, xanros?
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What is Xanros feeling about Tresendor Manor?
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Pissed, why, why is Xanros pissed?
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Why wouldn't Xanros be pissed?
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I mean, the manor is a ruin, yes, so she wasn't expecting that, and the red brands have holed up there, so she did not expect that she was going to have to eject people from there Squatters.
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Yeah, you know how difficult that is.
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It's been in the news all over lately trying to get squatters out of houses.
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Exactly.
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It's ridiculous, and I suspect we're not just dealing with red brands once we get there.
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So what makes you say that?
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you, me, you, I don't know what you're talking about, sure you're very suspicious, I I am suspicious, I am don't be suspicious, don't be, suspicious don't be suspicious don't be, suspicious, don't be suspicious, don't be suspicious, don't be suspicious, don't be suspicious.
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Yes, thank you.
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You're welcome, so I am suspicious.
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So, yes, there may be more than just red brands hanging out at Tresendor Manor.
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Yay.
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You've been warned and this what's the guy's name that we've picked up to go with us?
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It was something Pimble.
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Oh, that dude, oh I can't remember the Pimble guy.
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Because I thought his name was real, real, silly.
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And I would have to Theo Pimble, theo Pimble, theo Pimble.
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Yeah.
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He was one of the red brands.
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Is that what that was?
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Yes, he was a red brand.
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He was the one that tried to run away.
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Exactly and then said he would work at the B&B but also hates goblins.
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Right, and that's going to be an HR issue, it's going to be a problem.
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Yeah, yeah, so tell me so.
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Before we dive into the news articles, let me ask you both, because you're both coming at this game with a little bit different experience.
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So I'm going to start with you, fable.
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So you've played D&D for a while, but you haven't necessarily played organized by the rules.
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D&D.
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Oh my God, no, no, no.
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Which can be fun, because I was reading an article earlier talking about can you play D&D without the rules, and they're like absolutely.
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I mean you can certainly role play and do all that without all the hardcore rules of D&D.
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But how do you feel now, having played kind of more structured D&D?
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It's fun.
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Both of them are fun, but I will say I do like the more that shit crazy.
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Do whatever you want, dnd sure because that's what I'm used to.
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I get that.
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So what is what is this?
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What is this?
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Dnd lacking that?
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that it's not that it's lacking anything right, just like when there's like a little less rigidness, it's a bit more I say could I make this less rigid for you?
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like what?
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What could I do too?
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both of them are fine okay, I'm just checking in they're different.
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Both are fun, but they're both different got it?
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how?
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So?
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In what?
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In what ways?
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I mean, other than being one is batshit and one is not, but I mean, like, what's like?
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What are some of the nuances of the of the two?
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um.
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My campaign is way less serious we do not take ourselves seriously at all, are you saying you three take yourselves pretty seriously.
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I mean I surely don't compared to our campaign, this is way more serious Interesting.
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That's cool.
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Okay, I would like to sit down and just watch.
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I was going to say, if you let us play here that one time, you would have seen how insane it is.
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Yeah, I would like to watch that sometime just to get a feel for how you all play That'd.
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That would be very interesting.
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And, catherine, is you've primarily your primary, your primary experience, yes, is dming yeah and, and and playing some one shots.
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So.
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So how has this been for you?
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What's?
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What's the experience like, coming coming out as a, as a I want to say a new dnd player, but but someone relatively newer to the game?
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yeah, I mean, I actually have found that I enjoy coming at it from this angle much more like I like being a player way more than a dm.
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Yeah, um, and I really like the fact that, like I get to do stupid voices I get to be a very angry rock gnome you are a very angry rock.
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No I think she has every reason to be.
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No, I, I'm not saying I'm not saying it's unjustified, I'm just saying you played that very well, oh.
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Oh, thank you.
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It's fun for me because it's very different than my general personality, so it's it's kind of a which is would I dare call it bubbly.
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You wouldn't, but one of my coworkers did.
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Love you coworkers.
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Thank you for hiring Catherine.
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I mean, my coworkers are all so nice, but how do I tell them bubbly ain't me.
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You're, you're're, you have a very friendly.
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You're, you're friendly you're, you're upbeat, you're a very positive person.
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I am positive, so so I think you know bubbly might not be the the exact correct term, but right, but you definitely have a positive energy about you.
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That that, I think, is attractive to people.
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Well, thank you, you're welcome.
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That also goes with the other word that I've been described as in the past sweet, sweet and bubbly Are those two words you would use to describe me Kind, thank you.
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A beverage.
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Sweet and bubbly.
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Catherine, no, I would drink something sweet and bubbly, but yeah, I mean.
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I didn't marry sweet and bubbly.
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Well, and here's the thing In an interview are they going to get the extreme levels of sarcasm?
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No, no, they're not going to see my real personality up front.
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No, you got to hide that.
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Yeah, you got to hide that until they're comfortable, and then they get to see.
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So, so.
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So let me ask this Does that, does that also happen in D and D?
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Like when you, when you join a new party, do you just are you just are you just yourself?
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Or or do you have to get comfortable with the party and and then your personality really comes out?
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Well, I think it depends on.
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I mean, you know, in this instance it's very easy for me to do because it's three people that I know really well.
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Right.
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So like I'm, fully comfortable with you, James, and fable um going into like when I started DMing the campaign with the other group, with Joe and Kat, and at the time it was what Rob and Steve.
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Yeah.
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And, oh my gosh, why can't I think of her name?
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Christina.
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Yes, christina, rest in peace.
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I didn't know most of them, right.
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I knew Joe Right.
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And certainly not as well as I know Joe now.
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And now I feel like I know Kat really well and like I'm very comfortable with Steve.
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So I think it would be different now than it was then.
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Yeah, I think, I think there was a strong correlation to comfort in the party.
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Yeah, to number of dick jokes that are are told okay, like I think it's just a lot of those in our okay, see, see, so I've been definitely more quiet and reserved, because I don't know james that well, because I met james two hours before our first recording of okay, that's fair.
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Yeah, and james is a great guy, uh, but if you don't know him, yeah right.
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My friends, I've slept over at their houses like right right exactly like I could roll into a campaign with your friends, because I've taken all of them now to trivia with us.
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So yeah, interesting see.
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So yeah, so I, I think, you ask them what celebrities are hot?
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I do okay let's can.
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I tell this real quick Side quest so here's what happened.
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Monday night I go to trivia with one of my high school friends.
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Fable.
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Most of the time comes with Brings my high school friends.
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Fable brings their high school friends.
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Usually we have Donnie and Sophia.
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Hi Donnie, hi Sophia.
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Who's apparently not going to listen?
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listen, we've already established that sophia is not listening to us.
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The attention span got it um.
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This week we brought matt and kia because it was kia's birthday, so it was a very exciting week of new happy belated birthday kia and during trivia, matt brought up a guy, an actor, that he thought was super cute and fable was kind of like and anita and I agreed that he was objectively hot.
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And this just happened because in a little bit we're going to talk about the dnd cookbooks and I realized sam witwer is one of the co-authors, sam witwer being an actor that I loved in a show called being human years ago um, who is objectively hot and to whom fable responded.
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So I sent it to matt and keita, following up on our conversation from last week.
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It's all good.
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You know, different, different, different people are attracted to different people, that's cool, so I wanted to get an opinion.
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This one was meh and I won.
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So sam witwer objectively hot like I went with pretty because he's he is pretty.
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I mean he's got that like real sharp jawline he's like so, so still, anson mount anson mount is possibly like the pinnacle of male hotness wow, does he?
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look like oh, he's, so what's his?
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name anson mount a-n-s-o-n-m-o-u-n-t I think I think that was the the moment where I truly realized that I was queer, when I turned the corner and saw anson mount and I'm like, okay, oh, my god, here's the thing so fable's making a face like but here's the thing on star Trek.
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When we were watching him I kind of was the same like okay, yeah, Like he's a good looking guy, but whatever, we turned to the corner at comic-con for our photo op.
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And I was like.
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Holy crap, he's hot, he's gorgeous he is.
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He is all that and a bag of chips.
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He really is.
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Wow, he's not as bad as the other guy.
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Oh, could you all excuse us for a moment while I throw Fable out of our house?
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Wow, I said he's not as bad as the other guy, that's a compliment.
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Come on.
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We've established that I always disagree this is me minorly agreeing.
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You have a weird idea of a compliment, friend.
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Wow.
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Compared to my usual answers.
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Wow, wow.
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Big love.
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Big love to Anson Mount Hope you're listening.
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Yes.
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Please be listening.
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Oh, wow, this has gotten so far off, so so far it's.
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That was that was, that was.
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That was a very justifiable side quest.
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That was that was.
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That was.
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That was a good point.
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So let's, let's dive into some of these news articles that that we have been reading.
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Yeah, so, the first article from giant freaking robot this is this is where we heard the news that the banned episode of community called advanced dungeons and dragons from season two is back up on streaming on Peacock.
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Yay.
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Very exciting.
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Now we're not going to get into all of the conversation about Ken Jeong's.
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I can't even call it blackface because he wasn't.
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I mean, he had dark makeup on, but he wasn't trying to mimic being a black person a person of color?
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No, he was being a drow.
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He was being a drow, a dark elf.
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So maybe there's some racial undertones to dark elves.
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I don't know.
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I haven't really read into that that much.
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I don't know, I haven't really read into that that much.
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I do like that.
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The article talks about the fact that other shows that have had episodes banned for the same reason.
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They were clear instances of blackface.
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There's an episode of Always Sunny.
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There's an episode of 30 Rock I'm looking at some of the others here.
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Yeah, so I mean, they call out those two specifically and also call this an overreaction that it was pulled off.
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And I actually, yvette nicole brown, said that the episode being banned was an overreaction.
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Yeah, and I I agree.
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Um, I think we talked about this during the, the episode where we talked about all the, the TV episodes, but I agree that it's.
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I just think it's overkill in this instance because it was not specifically blackface in the traditional definition.
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I think this is the sort of thing where you can leave it up to the viewer to decide whether or not they want to watch it.
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Right, think this is the sort of thing where you can leave it up to the viewer to decide whether or not they want to watch it.
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Right, I mean it certainly, I.
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It certainly should be said.
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You know that you should.
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We should absolutely be sensitive to, yeah, to to everybody's feelings and and how they interpret this.
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But I, I don't think there was there, there was not even it's.
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It goes beyond ill intent, I mean it wasn't even.
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I mean he's a dark elf, I mean that's.
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Well, and in the episode it's addressed, yvette Nicole Brown surely says are we going to address this hate crime?
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And then they get into the whole thing about the fact that he's a dark elf.
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He's not in blackface, blah blah, blah, exactly.
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I just think the message of the episode yeah is so good yeah, I think, I think it's just I liked it.
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Yeah, it was a good one I thought.
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I thought it was such a great episode, for I mean addressing the whole fat neil issue and yeah, and and and overcoming that and really just kind of admitting your mistakes and trying to do something to help them, to help kind of correct those mistakes, so I thought it was a really good episode, I think it's a great episode in just making Jeff a more three-dimensional character, right Because he's so very especially in those early seasons and this was season two, you know he's very full of himself, he's very.
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There has to be some redemptive quality to the person.
00:17:59,608 --> 00:18:02,227
I mean, like even with Pierce.
00:18:02,627 --> 00:18:02,868
Yeah.
00:18:03,079 --> 00:18:04,006
Like I mean he's got maybe some good qualities.
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No, no, not really.
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Is that the guy that I didn like, even with Pierce.
